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Sirius XM vs. Pandora/Internet Radio: Apples and Oranges?

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Relmor Demitrius

 

      Sirius XM Radio (NASDAQ:SIRI) has many competitors. In this series of articles, first of which was Sirius XM vs. HD Radio, I look to find which competitors are valid and which are fiction. I was going to write individually about Pandora (NYSE:P), Spotify and I Heart Radio, but I decided there is no point. In 6 months I’d have to talk about another start up or existing internet service that is going to “crush Sirius XM”. So in lieu of rewriting this article every 2 weeks, I have decided to just include all internet services in this comparision. First we must clearly define what this segment of the competition offers.

Music choices. Lots of them. Hundreds of them. There are literally hundreds of internet sites that store, hold, allow downloaded, or allow a random order of music to your computer or internet device(i.e. car, Ipod, laptop, or smart phone). In fact, there are probably more internet radio options every day. The car was the latest place to add the internet. OEM manufactures didn’t want to let the other guy allow easy internet access and went futher and allowed a few of the more popular programs to be accessed “hands free”. Nice features for any new car. What others won’t tell you is these features are also for use with Sirius XM Radio as well, which include their weather, traffic, and entertainment data services. These can all be accessed hands off with Fords Sync and Dodges U Connect as well as Pandora. So when you read somewhere that a car is “adding Pandora”, what they are really doing is adding the internet and making it easy to get to Pandora. You can get there anyway, regardless.

There are literally thousands of pay ways and free ways to access music on the internet. It has been this way since around 1994. Smart phones began allowing instant music access anywhere around 2005. The internet in the car has been around for about 2 years now, on a large scale. When I say large scale, do I in no way mean the majority of cars and trucks. This as a standard feature in all cars is still years and years away. Yes, all those cheap non discretionary money spenders will have to wait.

Spotify entered the US market recently as a competitor of Rhapsody. Every day more and more music choices are on the internet. The internet is the huge medium for music access. Terrestrial radio entered this market with many online products as well. On November 7, 1994, WXYC 89.3 FM in CHapel Hill, NC became the first traditional radio station to announce broadcasting on the Internet. So internet radio has been around 7 years before Sirius XM began its service. The internet itself and allowing music access through sites like Napster.com have been around for decades now, even decades before Sirius XM began service. I will include internet companies like Pandora and Slacker (much better product than Pandora, not even close) as a courtesy, even though these companies are not even close to radio, nor is Spotify. CBS Radio online streaming and I Heart Radio are the main competitors here, as these are actually radio services.

What is Radio? I define, in the 21st century, Radio as a two way communication device that broadcasts content to a mass audience. Talk, sports, weather, data services, and all forms of audio entertainment define radio. Unfortunately Spotify, Rhapsody, Slacker, and Pandora type services don’t qualify as radio. I Heart Radio and CBS Radio streaming is radio. It is just terrestrial radio rebroadcasted online. So it’s simply the poor product that created the need for satellite radio in the first place on the internet. And the other sites are Napster basically. Napster has been around since 1990′s, I hate to break it to all the Spotify and Rhapsody fans. Pandora is a new concept, a random music generator. Definitely not radio, but a cute niche free service that has no surge in revenue potential. Too easy to mimic and no unique content. Availablility is irrelevant in 5 years. Everything will be available almost everywhere on any device in 5 years. Your going to need more than “available” to make it in the future. What is radio is a good question but let’s focus on other aspects right now.

As you can see, there are many competitors for online music. Even traditional terrestrial radio has an online precense that competes with Sirius XM. So where does Sirius XM come in?

- Sirius XM is a unique service that doesn’t have an equal. It is true radio. Its closest competitor is terrestrial online radio companies. Here is where they differ.

- Commericals. It’s still the same radio you can get on your AM/FM radio. No difference. Doesn’t sound better, last longer, or have few commericials. They are not better DJ‘s, fewer commercials, or anything else to differentiate itself from their broadcasted airways counterparts.

- Availablility. Sirius XM coverage area is still the most of any music service in the United States. No close second. None.
- Consistant pricing. Sirius XM has no additional charges to the consumer if your not in a “wi fi” hot spot. Same price in the city or in the country. Data charges start racking up for internet mobile users once wi fi hot spots are not being used.

- More than music. As is terrestrial radio more than music, so is Sirius XM Radio. Here is where Pandora and Spotify have to say good bye and all random music generators or music storage programs. These services do not offer human interaction. They do not offer traffic services, weather services, or allow emergency or relevant news to be communicated quickly to many people over a large area. They don’t cover the news, offer opinions, or an outlet to communicate to its listeners. Want to call in and talk about the presidential election? Pandora will not answer your phone call. Why? Because its not radio. Anyone who calls Pandora a Radio company doesn’t understand the space, ignore them and move on. Look at them like they are crazy and offer them professional councelling. Netflix (NASDAQ:NFLX) investors had the same look in their eyes when I told them their is nothing unique about your company. You have no content, hence no real power. Its hard for investors to grasp “power paradigms” but in some cases it just takes a bit of common sense. The key to any business is what makes you unique and the control you have over your content or product. Netflix wasn’t unique, in any way. What made them powerful was……………

AVAILABILITY!!! You guessed it. First to the XBOX, first to the internet and first to your mailbox. But what is Netflix? It is a 100% content distribution company. Some see Netflix as a Sirius XM. A content distrubution company. Not entirely true. They have a ton of unqique content you can only find on Sirius XM. It is also a content mega store. Want CNBC, NFL, and Martha Stewart on one service? Look no further. Want to hear local traffic and Bloomberg radio without missing your favorite stock quotes? Simply record your Bloomberg show and listen to the traffic. Then go back and listen to your Bloomberg Finance show at your convienience. Can Pandora do that? Of course not. Because its not really a competitor of Sirius XM. Analysts pumping Pandora and brokers would love to convince you that it is competition, but the numbers say otherwise. Let’s look at total revenue from radio and how it breaks down.

At end of year 2010, there was a total of 18.8 billion dollars in revenue generated by the radio industry. Although I do not include many of these companies in this space personally, Sirius XM has so I will include them here to humor them. Of that revenue, terrestrial radio produced $15 billion or 80% of it. Now that’s Sirius XM’s competition right there. Of that money, Sirius XM received 3 billion dollars. All internet radio companies combined, excluding Spotify which was not in the United States yet, was only 5%, or less than 1 billion dollars. So Sirius XM alone gross’s more than 3 times as much as all the internet radio companies combined. Who do you think record labels and performing artists like more? The 80% paying next to nothing in royalties, or Sirius XM paying 7% of their revenue? Even the pittance for a combined internet radio space doesn’t excite anyone. So who’s rooting for who here? Don’t discount where the content kings want their content to appear in the future. Part of a free business model with limited return, or a subscriber business model with consistant cash flow?

As for pay subscription service money for radio, Sirius XM is king. They receive 90% of all subscription money paid into the radio space. Of the total 3.1 billion dollars estimated for end of year 2010, 2.8 billion of that was Sirius XM’s. So approximately 300 million dollars left for all other services combined.

But you say, how much does each user generate for the radio companies involved. At the end of year 2009, Sirius XM generated $172 per subscriber and $72 a listener. Terrestrial radio generated $10 to $12 a listener and internet radio generated around $1.25 per user. If you were an advertiser, where would you pay more to advertise? Which of these user groups do you think has the highest percentage of disposable income? Sirius XM does of course. An Arbitron study done from 2010 clearly showed that. Age and income of the Sirius XM user is higher than those who listen to free music. It’s common sense. So can Pandora tap more free users? Of course they can. Can Sirius XM tap even more higher income users would prefer actual radio content over free? Of course they can. This isn’t an article to say if internet radio’s business models are substainable. Although recent comments from the founder of Pandora seem to indicate he isn’t even bullish his own model. This quote from Tim Westergren is revealing:

“One that is still fresh in my mind was the fight over royalty rates when we almost went out of business because the rates imposed by the copyright tribunal were astronomically high.

Our next great challenge is going to be tackling the licensing issues internationally.”

Basically Pandora was out of business if those representing the royalty side, SoundExchange or whoever it happened to be, got what they wanted, seen to them as a fair deal for their rights. They settled on a temporary agreement that now puts revenue step and step with costs. As their revenue goes up so do their costs. As more users use the product, so do their costs. Once Sirius XM adds a subcriber, that cost is 100% done. They system is already in use, and their total revenue is adjusted percentage wise, 7%, to pay the royalties on that added revenue. Also 1 difference. That money is paid by the consumer, not Sirius XM. Sirius XM passed along this free to its customers and they paid it and the company still added over 1 million subscribers since it was instituted. Here is another quote from Westergren.

“Pandora plays the music of over 90,000 artists. This translates into a substantially larger number of rights owners — the artists themselves, labels, publishers, etc.

Without a one-stop shop for licensing, it’s administratively difficult to enable the service. Where these centralized entities do exist, they have demanded royalty rates that are completely uneconomic. I would argue that in so doing, they are failing to serve their very constituents.”

I would argue, uneconomical for who? So Pandora feels that royalty demands should fit into their model. That’s ludicrious. Could you imagine if a corporation called the IRS and asked them to suspend their tax payments because they are ”unable to fit them into their model”. They would laugh at the company and hang up. That is what the Sound Exchange and other agencies representing the music performers/labels and songwritiers should have told them. Never heard such illogical ranting in my life from a “CEO” of a company. Terrestrial radio business model relies on a basically free royalty situation. Artists and record labels have fought long and hard to break the NAB controlled FCC and Congress on this issue. Without legal protection from the government, terrestrial radio’s business model becomes obsolute as well. The times of music labels and record companies needing terrestrial radio to promote their new music offerings are over. Sirius XM not only will promote your music, they will pay you more than anyone else for it, per dollar of revenue generated from that music. I sense a larger relationship between Sirius XM and record companies in the future. We should just call them music content originators really. Some analysts even see trickery in how Pandora reported their latest earnings. By delaying royalty payments and with cash from the IPO, they appear stronger then they really are. So Pandora, in my opinion, is in big trouble. I believe their model is unsubstainable. According to Jim Edwards of BNET, the SEC has informed Pandora that their model is unsubstainable. Seems like there is some agreement here from higher parties as well. Here is what the SEC stated.

“In order to provide greater balance to your summary, highlight that:

You currently operate under a business plan strongly reliant on lobbied concessions and federal court and federal agency consent decrees and settlements, setting reduced royalty and licensing rates that expire in 2015 and that ordinary rates, not subject to such extraordinary measures, to which you may be subject upon the expiration of these exceptions make your current business plan unsustainable, as discussed in your risk factors on page 15 and 16;”

So as you can see, some are some aren’t. One thing is true always since the .com explosion. Internet companies will come and go, and they usually are never bigger than when the media is pumping them. Yahoo has been around for decades now. They still struggle with growth. Ebay has trouble growing. Amazon.com is good. Google is a search engine and Facebook is our social network. Can you name 10 websites that have stood the test of time outside of these for 10 years? I can’t either. Actually you couldn’t even include Facebook if you go back 10 years. Anyone remember Myspace? Exactly. At least no sites that generate signficant profits and are exploding with growth potential still 10 years later. Why? Because in the end, forget the website or where you can access it, it ultimately comes down to unique service and content.  Just because Pandora is heard in a car, doesn’t mean the driver is watching the ads stroll by, or they get better users. Geez, I hope not. Internet radio is unsafe then as well. If these ads turn to audible ads, then you are no better than what Sirius XM was created for; to avoid commericials and noisy interruptions in your day, and maximum variety. If I wanted to be blasted with ads and listen to the same songs over and over I’d just turn on my AM/FM radio and probably get better reception and no data charges to boot.

Terrestrial radio is becoming less powerful by the day as Clear Channel is struggling and other companies are selling off markets to local control. It’s all about the nationally syndicated shows now and the national advertising dollars. The evolution of any business is that way. Look at the cable and satellite TV industries. Local shows are practically extinct except for the local news now and a few day time TV shows run by individual networks. My local radio stations pick up a ton of national content now. Most talk stations run national shows now not local shows. This pulls them further out of the communities and ironically makes them less of a competitior to satellite radio due to its declining influence on the community itself. National syndicated shows are all over Sirius XM already and easily available. You don’t need to worry about if or when your local station manager will pick up this guy or that guy. Your one stop radio site is already available.

If internet radio appears to be growing, it probably is. In 2006 the OEM side was in its infancy. Penetration into the OEM market was a tiny 21%. The next wave of new car buyers, about every 5 year cycle, would not have been exposed to the product as of yet. Sirius XM is still expanding their exposure. By 2015 approximatetly 75 million cars will have a satellite radio in it. One difference. The two industries are not going after the same audience. Those who have no money for discretionary spending are internet radio listeners mostly. Those who can afford to pay for radio will. Those who can’t will find nice cheap options. So as you can see, there is an entire country still to expose to both sets of products. With added internet availablility and access will come more exposure to their services. But it’s still free, it’s still not radio and it’s still not Sirius XM’s target customer base. Availability, OEM cars, wi fi, or whatever expands exposure to all these products. As Sirius XM customer base grows so could internet radio’s customer base. Anyone who is foolish enough to point out that growth in Spotify or Pandora means declining interest in satellite radio doesn’t understand this concept, has a poor grasp of the sector, and probably shouldn’t have an opinion on the subject.

Another problem now with internet radio is you can’t hear it anywhere you can’t hear Sirius XM. Period. Not one place, not one car, not one computer. Not one cell phone,Ipad or Ipod. If you can get online, you can access Sirius XM. If you have a satellite radio you will pick up the signal anywhere within the continental United States, parts of Canada, Mexico, and Alaska. Off the coast, in the desert, or on a river in the middle of no where, it doesn’t matter. So still Sirius XM has a greater coverage area. Sirius XM is still expanding their exposure with used car markets and new car buyers. Internet radio is as well. Keep in mind, Sirius XM has grown through the introduction of internet radio.

Still free is free. It’s never been a business model that has been a game changer. Facebook has 500 million users worldwide, and they still don’t generate the revenue Sirius XM does with only 21 million subscribers. In the world of business models, subsciber ones are simply better than ad based free models. It takes an insane amount of users to even hint at big profits in this format. If terrestrial radio ever had to pay streaming rights on their station’s rebroadcasts over the internet, I Heart Radio would fail the next day. If Spotify, Rhapsody, and Pandora ever had to pay up for their real usage like satellite radio does, they would be out of business in short order. Basically any internet music company is a law away from extinction. As is they are stuggling with a very small market share of money to divide up.

Itunes, Amazon.com, Rhaspody, Spotify, and Pandora all make money on the backs of artists and record labels who are catching on to what is really important, content. Netflix is starting to see that too. With Starz bolting , just wait until Sony, EMI, or BMG pulls their rights from all internet radio stations for more money and control of content flow. When their libraries start shrinking you will see the last dying grasp of a chaotic industry that never should have existed. Record labels have failed their artists and industries allowing this to run rampant. Sirius XM is a record label companys greatest supporter. They pay more money a year than any online site combined. Sirius XM pays over 220 million dollars a year for the rights to play its music selection. If Pandora had to pay that, they have more users why shouldnt they, you wouldn’t see them pumping that 90 million users, you would watch it drop to 5 million faster than you can blink. Their honesty would be forthcoming then. Well , we really don’t have that many users, it’s more like 5 million, not 90 million. Hilarious of course. Numbers are fun to play with aren’t they?  Reality is this. Pandora generates around zero dollars in cash profit. Sirius XM is generating around 180 million dollars a quarter and rising in profits. Sirius XM with cash on hand could buy out Pandora today. At least a majority stake. Why hasn’t Mel Kamarazin? Because he’s not stupid thats why. Do you think Pandora  going to an IPO is a coincidence.  No, it’s called getting venture capilatists their money back. Same reason Facebook sold some control. Hard to monetize a online business like Facebook, FORGET PANDORA. Pandora is near impossible to value. With no barrier to entry and no loyal fan base (any random music generator online would suffice if exposed) I don’t see Pandora or any internet music company competition for Sirius XM.

With the advent of internet radio, Sirius XM has grown from zero subscribers to over 21 million subscribers. Effect of internet radio to date: None. No effect shown. I will update this topic every year to make sure. Remember, internet radio was available over 6 years before the very first Sirius XM subcriber even existed.

Next up: Sirius XM Vs. Terrestrial Radio

Disclosure: Long SIRI

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Why Pandora Isn’t Direct Competition to Radio

The most obvious and first statement that can be made on the topic is direct and to the point.  Why isn't Pandora (NYSE: P) competition for radio?  Because it isn't radio.  Ok, I may buy that you say, then define what is radio then?  Fair enough.  Since the definition is of a more standard noun variety in the dictionary, I will simply attempt to identify the sector.  Take for example Sirius XM Radio (NASDAQ:SIRI).  Since it is a tradable equity, and I cover Sirius XM, I will use it as an example and identify what the company is, in what space it competes, and who exactly are its competitive threats to steal their business.  As it is generally accepted that terrestrial radio is competition for Sirius XM, by association, categorizing Sirius XM defines generally the entire radio industry and the best qualities it has to offer.

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The most obvious and first statement that can be made on the topic is direct and to the point.  Why isn’t Pandora (NYSE: P) competition for radio?  Because it isn’t radio.  Ok I may buy that, you say, but then define what is radio to you then?  Fair enough.  Since the definition is of a more standard noun variety in the dictionary, I will simply attempt to identify the sector.  Take for example Sirius XM Radio (NASDAQ:SIRI).  Since it is a tradable equity, and I cover Sirius XM, I will use it as an example and identify what the company is, in what space it competes, and who exactly are the competition in relation to  their business.  As it is generally accepted that terrestrial radio is competition for Sirius XM, by association  Sirius XM competes with generally the entire radio industry and the best qualities it has to offer.

In the past Sirius XM has been categorized as a technology company by some.  Lately it has been considered more of a media company, in the broadcast entertainment field more specifically.  They do have their own content and redistribute third party content as well.  So yes, they are indeed a media company by definition.  They also generate unique content and they “distribute” some forms of communication, news, or public service.  They broadcast a product that is in several ways interactive with the audience.  DJ’s, content, live interviews, and live call in shows make this company an interactive media company.  They are also a radio company in the broadcast space.  They deliver their content via smart phone, internet, and of course satellite receiver network.  This makes them unique in their industry, but that is a minor point only in this articles discussion.  The dictionary defines media as such..” the means of communication such as radio and television, newspapers, and magazines, that reach or influence people widely.”

Even by this basic definition, Pandora does not qualify as competition.  One important aspect of a media company is indeed the ability to communicate.  When I discuss Pandora with investors they have a hard time understanding this concept.  I’m not exactly sure why, but it’s an important element of a media company.  Pandora is simply a random music generator with no original content and no verbal interaction with live people in any way shape or form and as such does not qualify as a media company.  They name themselves as such, but they are a foolish to do so.  They are an internet company sure, and yes they are an entertainment company.  Can they report the news?  Can they give news updates?  Can they give the weather?  Can you receive data services from Pandora?  Can you call in to your favorite show and ask about that song you just heard?  Can you listen to live concerts and interviews?  Can you even hear a concert?

I would compare Pandora to an online jukebox you have less control over.  I would prefer a service like Rhapsody over Pandora, as it’s more personal and direct to what I want.  If I choose an artists on Pandora, I may only hear them a few times until I have to move on to other things, get out of my car, or deal with kids.  In those few plays I may not even hear a song I like by them.  If I have Rhapsody or a similar service I can directly put on whatever song I want at any time.  I would think Pandora is more competition to the IPod and Rhapsody, Spotify and for sure Slacker than Sirius XM or I heart Radio (which is actual radio, just terrestrial radio stations).  I think it is actually amusing to hear Pandora supporters plead their case as competition to radio.  You can say it all you want, authors can say they are till they are blue in the face, Pandora just isn’t competition and never will be with their current product and model. It’s like comparing apples and oranges, like calling Amazon.com competition for Apple.  Sure, they cross some business aspects, but no one in their right mind would mention Amazon.com as a company that could take down Apple or even greatly influence their revenue stream;  Microsoft sure could,  Google maybe,  Amazon.com, no way.  They compete in a couple of areas the digital book space and online music.  Actually Amazon.com is more of a competitor to Apple in reality than Pandora is to Sirius XM.

The iPod is considered competition by Sirius XM in their filings.  Why do I mention this?  Because Pandora cult members always point to that as proof that indeed they too are competition.  If that were true, then the iPod would have had an effect on Sirius XM by now as it’s been around for about 10 years at this point.  Media members would be saying Apple is a competitor to Sirius XM Radio.  They aren’t,  you know why,  because the Apple iPod isn’t competition for Sirius XM Radio;  and people covering Apple would be mocked out of their media and journalistic existence if they tried to make that case.

It was beneficial for Sirius XM, especially when trying to convince the FCC to allow the merger, to argue themselves that there was significant competition in the space.  They did list the iPod as one such competitor and a risk to their business.  They also listed HD Radio, which should be disappearing off the face of the planet any day now. If you want to look at numbers and compare them too we can.  But I already wrote that article.  It’s not pretty on that end either.  Here is the link to that article.   http://www.kingofalltrades.com/2011/06/14/why-the-pandora-ipo-is-irrelevant-to-sirius-xm/

Another argument is that to ignore a potential competitor is a foolish move as an investor.  I agree, I never ignore my competition.  When I see some, I’ll let you know.  Right now Sirius XM’s only competition is showing the world that their product has tremendous value at its current price.  Until I see a radio or media company offer a similar service, I will continue to sleep very well at night as a listener and stockholder.

Some may argue, well you don’t know the future, you can’t be sure one day Pandora won’t be bigger than Sirius XM. That is true I don’t know that; but I invest on facts and trends, not hopes and dreams.  If one day the world wakes up and no longer needs or wants radio but demands a jukebox, then Pandora stockholders will be very happy.

Disclosure:  No Position P; Long SIRI

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Why the Pandora IPO is Irrelevant to Sirius XM

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A lot of press has been issued of late about the upcoming Pandora IPO.  The Internet Random Music Generator Company, which gives about half of every penny in revenue directly to pay royalty charges, is planning on selling shares in the company on Wednesday.  They are offering 14.7 million shares at around $10 to $12 a share. This would generate around $147 million.  As per filings when the offering was announced, part of the money will be to simply repay venture capitalists and another portion expenses.  The balance will be held for general corporate purposes.  Only around 20% of the company’s equity is being offered here as well.  For a company that has never made solid profits there seems to be a lot of buyers offering cash to invest.  Is this money what would have been directed at Sirius XM Radio (NASDAQ:SIRI)?  Is Pandora even competition for Sirius XM Radio?  I believe the answer to both those questions is no.

Institutional ownership in Sirius XM was show in Q1 of 2011 to be approximately 38%, up from 20% just a little over a year ago.  With the average price in that time being around $1.50 a share, that is an influx of 700 million shares versus what was sold.  That comes to over 1 billion dollars in new money in around one year’s time.  Pandora’s IPO seeks to generate $147 million total revenue.  Some of that value is instantly gone as it is simply paid to venture capitalists.  So as you can see, based on this, Pandora’s IPO wouldn’t be detracting significant funds away.

Looking at total daily volume on Sirius XM right now, as a 3 month average, it is coming in at 80 million shares a day.  With an average price lately of let’s say $2 a share, that is 180 million dollars a day being traded in Sirius XM.  That is more than the total value of the offering entirely from Pandora.  This is small potatoes folks.  Were are talking apples and oranges here.  One company could buy the other with one quarter of free cash flow and the other is struggling to make money in a free and advertising business model.  Let us compare this in other ways however.

Mel Karmazin, CEO of Sirius XM Radio, likes to show slides of how Sirius XM compares to its competitors in the same space.  I always felt this was a tongue in cheek use of the word, “competitor”, as these numbers clearly show the only real competitors Sirius XM has is terrestrial radio.  Total radio revenue in the sector is 18.8 billion dollars.  Sirius XM has 15% of that, all internet radio companies have 5% of it, and terrestrial radio has 80% of it, when it was almost 100% in 2001.

Of subscription radio companies, Sirius XM receives 2.8 billion of 3.1 billion total dollars.  The other .3 billion is all internet radio companies combined, not just Pandora.  That includes Slacker, I heart Radio, Rhapsody, etc…

The actual number of subscribers that use all forms of radio subscriptions, comes in at 20.6 million for Sirius XM, less than 1 million for Spotify, 750,000 for Rhapsody and less than 500,000 for Pandora.

Sirius XM receives $141 a year per subscriber, Pandora receives $1.68 per user, and Clear Channel receives $13.61 per listener.  Sirius XM monthly average intake per subscriber is $14.50.

One can argue true, but Sirius XM has huge operating costs.  Correct.  But they are static for the most part.  Other than fluctuations in OEM acquisition costs based on how many cars were sold in that quarter, Sirius XM’s cost side is very predictable from here till 2017 when they will begin spending money again on new satellites.  They also have many unexplored avenues to cut costs still yet to play out.  With predictable costs profit margins can be easily estimated.  Although a high share count prevents Sirius XM right now from having attractive earnings per share, their free cash flow and EBITDA guidance 1 year out is exceptional for the sector.  Their EBITDA will be around 850 million dollars by the end of 2011.  Pandora’s total revenue for the year was $137 million.  Once again, this is apples and oranges.

Pandora would have a hard time creating a significantly better product as well.  With Clear Channel having major debt concerns, Sirius XM could also be poised to steal a lot of talent on the cheap in the coming months.  Even Rush Limbaugh has been rumored to be jumping the sinking ship of Clear Channel.  It is easy for Sirius XM to add channels (they just added a slew of minority interest channels including Latin American choices) or talent to create more value.

Other things that separate Pandora from Sirius XM are that Sirius XM is a content driven service, with data services that cannot be offered in the Pandora model.  The ability to give live interaction, requests, weather, sports, talk radio, live broadcasts of CNN, CNBC, and countless other stations really gives little to compare with.  One service generates random songs and the other is actual radio.  Radio has always been to be a two way communication medium.  Personalities, contests, live events, the ability to interact or listen to the same thing as your friend is hearing, all this goes into what radio is.  It’s not just playing music.   The coverage area is a whole other topic as well.  Don’t even get me started on that one.  Data charges are also a huge negative to the model, as it relies 100% on internet and mobile devices are a huge driving force in its usage.

Another point is Sirius XM is basically a monopoly, whereas Pandora has many competitors with similar services on the same medium.

All that being said, Pandora I’m sure is a nice product many people enjoy.  I am not writing this to bash Pandora and talk about its shortcomings, of which it has many.  I for one do not like it at all.  This article is in response about the talk that this IPO is affecting the trading of Sirius XM, and is it even competition for the company at all.  Sirius XM lists Pandora as a competitor, but it also lists MP3 players and Ipods.  They are thorough and when Mel says he sees no acquisitions that make sense for Sirius XM, you can be darn sure he knows what Pandora is when he says that.  Well Mel, I would have to agree with you here my friend.  Nothing to see here, let’s move along shall we.

Disclosure:  Long SIRI

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The Sirius XM (NASDAQ:SIRI) Internet advantage

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Lately, there seems to be an awful lot of chatter in the media about how successful streaming internet music services are going to be such as Pandora and Spotify. The media even goes so far as to say that this will be a detriment or lead to the demise of Sirius XM radio, but they are missing a huge point with Sirius XM. The satellite radio company has made internet streaming of the service a part of their model, and has included exclusive content such as Howard Stern in some of its internet packages. This has made Sirius XM internet not only a must have for exclusive content in the satellite realm, but for internet based streaming as well.

As the Sirius XM model continues evolving, it seems quite clear that tiered programming based on the amount of advertising a listener is willing to put up with is on the horizon. Theoretically, you could have a $12.95 premium version of Sirius XM internet, a $10.95 version with let’s say 5 minutes of hourly advertising, another tier based on 10 minutes at $8.95 and so on. The beauty of this model is that it would allow people who see paying $12.95 for a service as too steep a price to listen at more palatable price points in relation to other competitors in the space such as Pandora, who don’t have anywhere near the variety of content.

Additionally, because Sirius XM has a strong base of subscriber consumers who have generally more discretionary dollars to spend, and a program lineup that reads like a who’s who in the media space, advertisers would seem to want to gravitate to Sirius XM to spend a good portion of their money on ads that will generate interest from the very people who have the majority of money to spend. So while internet based services may be the new hot commodity, assuming that it hurts Sirius XM is a stretch if it is anything at all. The merger of the 2 US satellite radio companies has created a dynamic with tremendous potential upside that is starting to deliver on its promise, and is in the midst of potentially expanding its offerings at more affordable pricing for even the most cost conscious consumers. The future of internet radio does indeed include Sirius XM radio in the mix. Who are the contenders, the pretenders and the competition? We would love to hear your opinions.

Disclosure: Long Sirius XM

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Sirius XM (NASDAQ:SIRI) Treatment is a Travesty of Misinformation

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Mel and Howard

Mel and Howard

By Steve Garcia

Once again this week, Sirius XM Radio (NASDAQ:SIRI)  has been the brunt of some bad writing and less than accurate information from the likes of several “Financial News” sources on the internet.   The death of satellite radio as we know has been an ongoing source of comic relief to any investor who is worth their salt and does even a small amount of research, including reading some SEC filings.  Fomented lies about satellite radio may grab some sensational headlines but they do not give a true and clear picture of what satellite radio is or whether they truly have any direct competition.

Allow me to help clarify the picture for those of you out there who have not been following for the last 10 years.   Satellite radio is here to stay, having survived the onslaught of negativity from multiple media sources and a merger which became prohibitively expensive to finalize, as well as the economic meltdown of 2008-2009.  That said, Sirius XM, which is the company resulting from the merger of Sirius satellite radio and XM satellite radio, once two very distinct satellite radio companies has spent the last year and a half shedding a lot of excesses and duplicity of effort and cost as it streamlines and transforms into a much leaner and stronger company.

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